Curse

Coloneh · Sep 28, 2007, 05:56 AM // 05:56

If you are talking overall DPS then splinter barrage or conjure barrage go go

If you are talking about single target DPS, then its pointless as interrupts and shutdown are better than damage on a single target.

distilledwill · Sep 28, 2007, 12:09 PM // 12:09

Anyone tested a few high DPS builds stated here with the new feature on the Isle of the Nameless?

squirrels_from_hell · Oct 01, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

Anyone tested a few high DPS builds stated here with the new feature on the Isle of the Nameless?

Wait... What new feature?
please do tell

Fay Vert · Oct 02, 2007, 12:07 AM // 00:07

Master of damage, round the wall on the outside part. Tells you Dps, max damage, time to kill him.

Div · Oct 02, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30

It really depends on what you want to do with the DPS. Do you want it to be focused on one target (spiking damage) or a good amount of damage over multiple monsters (barragetype damage). Against a single target, barrage becomes much weaker than something like triple shot, but barrage proves to be much stronger if the monsters are all clumped up.

jesh · Oct 02, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02

According to the master of damage, Kindle+Conjure = mean of 49dps.
That's only with regular attacks..
I used 15 marksman, 10 wilderness, and 9 fire magic with a vampiric recurve bow.

The reason I had these stats was for an experiment. I'm using Prepared Shot as my elite since Dark Alchemist seems to rant about it so much.
I'm impressed. At 4+1 Expertise I do just fine using Triple and Dual shot on recharge without a zealous string.

Also the high wilderness opens up Natural Stride and Troll Unguent for utility.
Big advantage over Glass Arrows imo.

:EDIT:

Hmm I don't understand this guy. My screen says:
You're averaging 49 dps in the last 5 seconds.
You're averaging 55 dps in the last 5 seconds.
You're averaging 56 dps in the last 5 seconds.
You're averaging 65 dps in the last 5 seconds.
Your best damage in a single shot was 87, done at 11 seconds.
Death occurred after 17 seconds.

Then he turns around and says:
You did 550 damage over 16 seconds, for an average of 34 dps.

If it was that low, then why were my averages so high during the attacks? I'm confused.

If I actually use attack skills, it goes like this:
111
74
89
75
Then 1051 over 18 seconds = 58 dps

*puzzled*

iridescentfyre · Oct 02, 2007, 06:21 AM // 06:21

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Originally Posted by jesh

If it was that low, then why were my averages so high during the attacks? I'm confused.

Those averages were at 5 second intervals (roughly two shots with a Recurve), not per individual shot. In theory you had some hits which were as low as 20.

550 damage / 16 seconds = 34(.375) dps

jesh · Oct 02, 2007, 08:20 PM // 20:20

Well I'm pretty sure that he's a 60 AL target, and in that case, my lowest hit would have been:

15+(15*.35)+16+17+5=63.25, or 63.

My highest hit was over 180 damage with triple shot, and I'm only r1.
I'll post Glass Arrows+Brutal results right now.

I think I get what you mean though. I could have put out more dps with a vampiric flatbow as well.

Darkpower Alchemist · Oct 06, 2007, 10:45 AM // 10:45

Also, if checking ranger DPS, don't use poison if you want pur damage numbers. Degen doesn't effect death time, but it will add extra info after the death, that may confuse you when you record and calculate.

Grammar · Oct 07, 2007, 06:26 PM // 18:26

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Originally Posted by Diddy bow

QFT. Ive also found that using a bow brutal+glass+dual/forked is about the peak of a bows DPS (and ive tried some crazy things like echo focused shot

). Still spear>bow dps wise.

Damn, prot monks ftl?

Builds like this are great for DPS testing at the Battle Isles or in easy PvE areas where protting isn't needed, but serious PvE areas require an ass-ton of protting. Aegis, Prot Spirit, SoA, SoD, RoF, Guardian, the list goes on and on. Hell, a simple Aegis-chain alone will ruin your DPS.

I run a full interrupt bar with room for only 1 damage skill (Burning Arrow) and a prep (RtW). Burning Arrow remains the absolute best single-target DPS skill* in the entire ranger arsenal.

*single skill with no drawbacks, such as half range (Point Blank Shot) or disabling your interrupts (Focused Shot)

Marverick · Oct 07, 2007, 11:42 PM // 23:42

Even if you can pull off a decent bow DPS build, it will still never be as high as just using Daggers or something for damage. And by spamming attack skills you can't interrupt or provide any utility, so you're practically useless.
Full interrupt bars are really excessive, though... Savage + Dshot in most builds are fine, Concussion is useable in addition to those if there's heavy caster pressure, but anymore than 3 and you're just wasting slots.

Grammar · Oct 08, 2007, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Concussion Shot happens to be one of my very favorite Ranger skills. It's recast is short so it can be used on multiple casters per battle unlike BHA, and it's not an elite like BHA. And dazed is ftw.

Marverick · Oct 08, 2007, 11:37 PM // 23:37

But it kinda restricts your elite to Prep Shot or Marksman's Wager because of its high energy cost.